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It has been getting on my nerves. I know there was a guide on the site before but I can't locate it anymore so here's mine minus the answers for the auditions, in case you want to figure them out yourself 8 Dec's the last audition. While make up the bulk of dating sims, other types of games exist. This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's.

Take it as life simulation that focus on dating, at least in good games. Since all of these genres have been so rightly confused and stuff, if they were all in the one article the similarities and differences between the specific genres can be outlined much clearer, and most disputes I think will be resolved and we are all happy.

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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the and see a list of open tasks. This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's. This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's. This article is supported by. If you would like to , please visit the , where you can join the project, participate in , and see. Current time in Japan: 01:59, December 24, 2018 , 30 This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's. This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's. Isn't it actually the other way around? The games aren't about dating. The games are not simulation games. I know I am smarter than you, ergo my point of view is better than yours. In all seriousness, bring in some extra voices to this before you start reverting. Doesn't giving an accurate description of the subject take priority over following English-language convention? I hope this list might help clarifying the difference. To put a couple of clear examples, The Question is a Ren'ai game, while Summer Session is a Dating sim. There are, of course, many hybrids that blur the line between both categories, like the The Nettestadt Troll, which mostly runs as a typical Ren'ai visual novel but at a certain point starts including DS elements. As an even clearer example of hybrids, Elven Relations is a Ren'ai VN that incorporates some RPG-like combats. In other words, Ren'ai applies to any anime-style, romance-oriented game; but Dating Sims are specifically about simulating dating. Neither is a subgenre or subcategory of the other, due to a quite simple reason: Dating Sim is a mechanic-based classification: all DS's have many points in common in the kind of game-play and user-interaction they handle; while Ren'ai is a thematic and visual style classification: games that focus on romance and use anime-style sprites are considered to be Ren'ai, regardless of the game mechanics they involve. A Ren'ai game can be a Dating Sim, or a Visual or Kinetic Novel, or any hybrid point between these and maybe other categories. A Dating Sim will also be a Ren'ai game if it's romance-oriented most probably, all DSs are and has an anime-like visual style which most DSs are. A DS that uses, for example, an American-comicbook visual style would that wouldn't be usual, but is perfectly possible be still be a Dating Sim, but wouldn't be a Ren'ai game. You may take a look at the for an example on how these games are normally categorized they tag the games listed by type of gameplay, by kind of relationship, and by thematic genre. There is no artificial intelligence involved. It is all a set of predesigned pathways for you to take and its just differing depending on your choices. I just noticed someone removed the BL game and GxB pages and reverted them here. Since it's basically been settled that dating sims and visual novels are different genres, there's confusion in this article due to visual novels also being called dating sims in the West. Tokimeki Memorial is a dating sim. I'm going to try and remove the content I can figure out is referring to the other genre, but I'm not quite sure what all of the games mentioned are, so it's rather hard. Then again, I'm arguing in favor of English genre definitions on the English wikipedia on , so I can't rightly favor the Japanese source in this case just because I personally agree with it. Still, I'd like to replace the illustrative thumbnail of Kana Imōto in this article with one of or , which most people agree are the archetypical dating sims. I thought that was the clearest description I've seen and the easiest distinction. Perhaps we could make that distinction more obvious. Yes there is some meshing but Kana Imouto and most if not all of the other g-collections games are not dating-sims just marketed incorrectly as such. Often a schedule element is included from what I have read? People didn't post their comments in correct order and forgot to sign their posts. I have to move things around a bit to make it easier to follow, hope that doesn't violate any talk page guidelines. Now on to the topic, I think there is too little information regarding different genres of dating sim. All important information from those pages was merged into the new Gender matching section. People has constantly improved upon this section since then. I don't know if it was just his honest mistake in trying to delete the See Also section. Now the only reference to different genres of dating sim is a very short paragraph consists of 4 sentences. I would like to ask for all your opinion before making such a big restoration especially from SeizureDog. If this is indeed a mistake, then we should restore the section using and maybe add some information from Yaoi game which was left after the first merge into BL subsection as well. However, if it was deleted on purpose, I would like to know the reason behind it since it makes the article much shorter and not very informative. Perhaps English eqivalent articles could be revived if people can put more information into them? Three weeks have passed without any explanation. I've recovered all the deleted texts and put them where they used to be. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea, as otome games are targeted towards a total different audience compared to most games referred to as dating sims, and 'dating sims' an accepted genre anyway? I thought there was confusion about what's a sim vs. Seriously, there is an angry HOMOPHOBE who delete every Yaoi article. It has been getting on my nerves. If you're concerned, please talk to my page. And I would also like to restore the old BL Games page. I support this merger. The entire visual novel family needs to become more consistent. These two are made for each other. A few stats like charisma and cash on hand are sprinkled throughout the visual novel genre, and make a distinction really useless. Dating sims and visual novels are the same thing. Yes, some mostly visual novels have a bit of stats in them, but it's usually quite different - sims have real choices about how to develop characters on an ongoing basis, whereas novels only have dialogue or action choices in a few places. Sims are much more complicated than novels. As for otome games, I don't see why they need to be merged. I'm afraid that if it happens, the information in that page will be lost. It's already hard enough to find info about otome games on the web, why does it need to be stuck in with such a broad category? Not all visual novels involve dating... Similarly, there are a number of dating sims that don't really fit into the visual novel mold. It's best to leave them separate. Since all of these genres have been so rightly confused and stuff, if they were all in the one article the similarities and differences between the specific genres can be outlined much clearer, and most disputes I think will be resolved and we are all happy. I find it not to apply in this case. Instead, when shoping with protagonist, she will ask to pick a piece of good and player will get choice of colors. Take it as life simulation that focus on dating, at least in good games.

To help you become d dating sim with Toru or any of the guys as soon as possible, you will need to hang out with him as much as possible. If this is indeed a mistake, then we should restore the section using and maybe add some information from Yaoi game which was left after the first merge into BL subsection as well. Sexually explicit dating sims may fall into the category of or. The entire visual novel family needs to become more consistent. Not all visual novels involve dating. Seriously, there is an angry HOMOPHOBE who delete every Yaoi article.

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